It seems I'm not the only one that has complaints about Winn and Sims as a company. They seem to have an unsatisfactory standing with the Better Business Bureau. In fact, they have the lowest possible rating with the Better Business Bureau (a rating of "F").
For the record, I did not do anything with the Better Business Bureau regarding Winn and Sims (or anyone for that matter). Personally, I think it's a waste of time. But I still think it's interesting that others have followed through with it.
Hey! I'am really glad I found your page, because my boyfriend and I are having problem's with those sorry S.O.B's who have taken his unemployement check out of his bank account after sending us a paper in the mail saying we had until the end of april to comply and we called them and hadn't heard anything back and this was all before the end of april and when thay finally called back was when thay cleaned his account out without any notice of doing so. Thay also have no Idea what his situwation is or did they even care he has a baby on the way and health prolem's that reqire medacation that I could not get for him becuse they took ever penny this hard working man had! and the real kicker to this hole thing is that when I talked to this asshole named chris at sit & spin's I mean winn & sim's, I told him my boy friend can't get his med's because of what they have done. He told me he didn't even care. My boy friend could die and I told him if anything happen's to my boyfriend they will have one of the biggest lawsuit's you've ever seen!
{lol} Actually I haven't written anything on this site since November of last year (since you guys gave me my money back and paid all my expenses). :)
I have always paid my bills (see this entry), and to date, I've never even had an interest charge on any of my credit cards (always paid in full).
Also, you seem to forget that I can track who's who on the site, and you physically being only a few miles north of Winn and Sim's office, I'll assume you work for them. {grin}
Winn and Sims is now rated "A" by the LA Better Business Bureau.
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I am dealing with them as we speak. they claim they served with papers and they never did. So now there is a default judgement againist me to garnish my wages becaue I never showed up to court. WELL is that fucking dandy. i spoke to guy named Eric and he said that I have a serious bad background and that I could go to Jail for not paying on my debt. and that he doesnt care that I am a single parent that is your problem that the daddy left and now i could understand why. they are liars and and they need to stop harrassing everyone. Especially lying about them serving me. they just didnt want me to show up so they probably had some stranger on the street served.
I wanted to post here that I am in the process of settling with Winn & Sims! They have harassed and badgered me for the past 2 years, but I hired a layer to go after them. Their habits were so bad that my lawyer called them on it and they eventually agreed to settle for no money! I have a wonderful lawyer and am happy to not have to pay the $5K that they were after.
Okay, it seems to me that, judging from the blogs that "Shawn" has posted and others have posted, they may have a point against Winn & Sims procedures. However, in all fairness, the messages left on this blog should tell you to take everything with a grain of salt. Yes, there are the sob stories about so-and-so with no money for medication and a baby on the way. Well, if you want to hear the real sob stories, try visiting Skid Row, or a state prison. This doesn't make it any less sad, but the fact of life is, you're responsible for your own actions in the past. Being in a sorry situation doesn't mean you get a 'I forgive you.' It sounds completely heartless to say that yes, the debt collectors could care less whether you're in need of medication or not, but the law isn't about who's side of the story is more appealing. It's also a little hard to believe that a law firm of such size somehow escapes the radar from regulatory agencies. Not impossible, but improbable - again, you can make a number of websites with well-written articles promoting anything from male pregnancy to aliens from Mars, and some people will even believe it. It doesn't make it true.
One last bone to pick. I find the whole situation very humorous, as this "Shawn" is obviously someone of at least average intelligence, enough to know about IP tracking, etc. However, in quickly skimming the comments here, I would venture to say that you won't be impressing the judge anytime soon with your language and/or coherence.
I'm sure people who have received mail from Winn & Sims do a quick search and end up on this page. First of all, the last post was in 2004, and whatever tactics they use may not still be in use. Second of all, one personal account along with a lot of disgruntled possible debtors gives you very little perspective. I say "possible debtors" because it's very possible that they've gone after the wrong person, etc. etc. but face the truth: some of these people ARE debtors, and the employees of Winn & Sims are just doing their jobs.
The eternal question: is this message from someone affiliated with Winn & Sims? No, just a person who is skeptical enough to doubt the complete veracity of this blog and its commentators. This "Shawn" came up with a clever way to vent his frustrations, but I doubt he can say that all the cases that Winn & Sims handles are false. Neither are the tactics anything unusual, especially among people who have a history of bad credit (Credit Bureau reports ARE run) and consistently refuse to pay. If you've heard the hundreds of sob stories, you might realize that you're not so different from the rest of the world. Welcome to the concept of taking some responsibility.
I am going through the same thing with Winn & Sims, including getting default judgment against me without ever serving me either. As soon as I get this resolved through the courts , I do believe I am going to do some investigative work on my own and see what I can do to get this firm involved in a class action lawsuit AND disbarred. They are a disgrace to the legal profession. I hope people will stay posted to this site, and will continue to post Winn & Sims unethical tactics and abuse of debtor rights.
I am really suprised that Winn and Sims and their partners at Calvary have not been put out of business via their tactics.
I was also "served" and Calvary received a default against me. I was never served and only found out about this after the fact.
To make matters worse, my 823 credit score is now sub 700. This is the only mark on my debt.
I plan on fighting these guys in the courts and I am going to call a few members of of Congress in CA to see what they can do regarding this racket.
For anybody reading this post, fight them as much as possible by calling your state and federal representatives to complain about Winn and Sims. And if you have a case, find a good consumer lawyer and find out if they will take your case on contingency which they will do if you are being wronged.
These guys have been trying to collect my ex boyfriends debt from me for over 2 years now. They call my house, my parents, my neighbors - and say the most appalling things. After being screamed at by one of their collectors I researched him on the internet (It's amazing what google will turn up - pictures, home address, siblings) - guess what? He's a convict who has turned his violent, threatening demeanor into a new form of extortion. This is the level of integrity they hire. Seriously, even if you legitimately owed a debt, would you give your credit info to a convict? I sure wouldn't! They're crooks and thieves, nothing more.
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Winn and Sims, P.C. is a debt collection company, and like many debt collectors they can easily become aggressive when trying to contact consumers and collect payments.
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Winn and Sims went on a buying spree and acquired a ton of worthwhile domains. Perhaps they are growing and want a different domain for each office site or something.
I'm surprised that a company that has had so many runs with the BBB is still operating at it's full capacity, I think that something should be done regarding this, but since I'm no expert my word should be taken for granted. I know that I've never have had any problems with my favorite house clening company and that's why I highly recommend them.
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Taking a stroll down memory lane, I can recall a similarly disappointing experience with a different company that likewise fell short in customer satisfaction. This blog post about Winn and Sims' alarming BBB record makes me realize the value of standing up for consumer rights. It's indeed intriguing how people's collective voice can shed light on a company's true reputation.
It's disheartening to hear about Winn and Sims' abysmal rating with the Better Business Bureau. Reading the BBB's description of an "F" rating leaves me with a sense of unease, as it suggests a lack of reliability and potential legal non-compliance. While I've never personally engaged with the BBB myself, it's intriguing to see others take the initiative to hold companies accountable through such means.
Wow, reading about Winn and Sims' Better Business Bureau record was quite eye-opening! Their "F" rating indicates serious concerns about their reliability, including failure to address complaints and misleading advertising. It's fascinating to see how some people take the time to report such issues, even though I personally haven't engaged with the Better Business Bureau myself. Nevertheless, it's important to be aware of such experiences and make informed decisions.
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It seems I'm not the only one that has complaints about Winn and Sims as a company. They seem to have an unsatisfactory standing with the Better Business Bureau. In fact, they have the lowest possible rating with the Better Business Bureau (a rating of "F").
Winn and Sims' Better Business Bureau record, and it's disheartening to see a company with such a low rating. Reading the BBB's description of an "F" rating makes me question their reliability and adherence to business practices. While I've never dealt with them personally, the experiences shared by others certainly raise concerns about their legitimacy.
Not impossible, but improbable - again, you can make a number of websites with well-written articles promoting Owensboro Drywall Contractors or anything from male pregnancy to aliens from Mars, and some people will even believe it. It doesn't make it true.
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Ha ha.
I think we should leave it at that.
Wow, I'm so glad I found your website. This is all verrry interesting to me.
Obviously they would get an F from the bbb.
Hey! I'am really glad I found your page, because my boyfriend and I are having problem's with those sorry S.O.B's who have taken his unemployement check out of his bank account after sending us a paper in the mail saying we had until the end of april to comply and we called them and hadn't heard anything back and this was all before the end of april and when thay finally called back was when thay cleaned his account out without any notice of doing so. Thay also have no Idea what his situwation is or did they even care he has a baby on the way and health prolem's that reqire medacation that I could not get for him becuse they took ever penny this hard working man had! and the real kicker to this hole thing is that when I talked to this asshole named chris at sit & spin's I mean winn & sim's, I told him my boy friend can't get his med's because of what they have done. He told me he didn't even care. My boy friend could die and I told him if anything happen's to my boyfriend they will have one of the biggest lawsuit's you've ever seen!
{lol} Actually I haven't written anything on this site since November of last year (since you guys gave me my money back and paid all my expenses). :)
I have always paid my bills (see this entry), and to date, I've never even had an interest charge on any of my credit cards (always paid in full).
Also, you seem to forget that I can track who's who on the site, and you physically being only a few miles north of Winn and Sim's office, I'll assume you work for them. {grin}
Winn and Sims is now rated "A" by the LA Better Business Bureau.
The "A" rating description from their site:
An excellent rating. A company with this rating may not rate higher because of a greater number of rate-lowering factors, but we do not consider them to be factors that would likely adversely affect consumer transactions.
http://www.labbb.org/BBBWeb/Forms/Business/CompanyReportExtensionPage.aspx?CompanyID=13194961&sm=
Awesome! :)
I am glad to have found your website. The BBB post is especially interesting and should be something useful in my countersuit against them.
Thanks
Looks like they cleared up the BBB record (from F to A), but now it's dropping again. hehe
Was "B"... now it's "C".
Thank you, very interesting!
I am dealing with them as we speak. they claim they served with papers and they never did. So now there is a default judgement againist me to garnish my wages becaue I never showed up to court. WELL is that fucking dandy. i spoke to guy named Eric and he said that I have a serious bad background and that I could go to Jail for not paying on my debt. and that he doesnt care that I am a single parent that is your problem that the daddy left and now i could understand why. they are liars and and they need to stop harrassing everyone. Especially lying about them serving me. they just didnt want me to show up so they probably had some stranger on the street served.
I wanted to post here that I am in the process of settling with Winn & Sims! They have harassed and badgered me for the past 2 years, but I hired a layer to go after them. Their habits were so bad that my lawyer called them on it and they eventually agreed to settle for no money! I have a wonderful lawyer and am happy to not have to pay the $5K that they were after.
Okay, it seems to me that, judging from the blogs that "Shawn" has posted and others have posted, they may have a point against Winn & Sims procedures. However, in all fairness, the messages left on this blog should tell you to take everything with a grain of salt. Yes, there are the sob stories about so-and-so with no money for medication and a baby on the way. Well, if you want to hear the real sob stories, try visiting Skid Row, or a state prison. This doesn't make it any less sad, but the fact of life is, you're responsible for your own actions in the past. Being in a sorry situation doesn't mean you get a 'I forgive you.' It sounds completely heartless to say that yes, the debt collectors could care less whether you're in need of medication or not, but the law isn't about who's side of the story is more appealing. It's also a little hard to believe that a law firm of such size somehow escapes the radar from regulatory agencies. Not impossible, but improbable - again, you can make a number of websites with well-written articles promoting anything from male pregnancy to aliens from Mars, and some people will even believe it. It doesn't make it true.
One last bone to pick. I find the whole situation very humorous, as this "Shawn" is obviously someone of at least average intelligence, enough to know about IP tracking, etc. However, in quickly skimming the comments here, I would venture to say that you won't be impressing the judge anytime soon with your language and/or coherence.
I'm sure people who have received mail from Winn & Sims do a quick search and end up on this page. First of all, the last post was in 2004, and whatever tactics they use may not still be in use. Second of all, one personal account along with a lot of disgruntled possible debtors gives you very little perspective. I say "possible debtors" because it's very possible that they've gone after the wrong person, etc. etc. but face the truth: some of these people ARE debtors, and the employees of Winn & Sims are just doing their jobs.
The eternal question: is this message from someone affiliated with Winn & Sims? No, just a person who is skeptical enough to doubt the complete veracity of this blog and its commentators. This "Shawn" came up with a clever way to vent his frustrations, but I doubt he can say that all the cases that Winn & Sims handles are false. Neither are the tactics anything unusual, especially among people who have a history of bad credit (Credit Bureau reports ARE run) and consistently refuse to pay. If you've heard the hundreds of sob stories, you might realize that you're not so different from the rest of the world. Welcome to the concept of taking some responsibility.
I am going through the same thing with Winn & Sims, including getting default judgment against me without ever serving me either. As soon as I get this resolved through the courts , I do believe I am going to do some investigative work on my own and see what I can do to get this firm involved in a class action lawsuit AND disbarred. They are a disgrace to the legal profession. I hope people will stay posted to this site, and will continue to post Winn & Sims unethical tactics and abuse of debtor rights.
I am really suprised that Winn and Sims and their partners at Calvary have not been put out of business via their tactics.
I was also "served" and Calvary received a default against me. I was never served and only found out about this after the fact.
To make matters worse, my 823 credit score is now sub 700. This is the only mark on my debt.
I plan on fighting these guys in the courts and I am going to call a few members of of Congress in CA to see what they can do regarding this racket.
For anybody reading this post, fight them as much as possible by calling your state and federal representatives to complain about Winn and Sims. And if you have a case, find a good consumer lawyer and find out if they will take your case on contingency which they will do if you are being wronged.
WE NEED A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT!!!
These guys have been trying to collect my ex boyfriends debt from me for over 2 years now. They call my house, my parents, my neighbors - and say the most appalling things. After being screamed at by one of their collectors I researched him on the internet (It's amazing what google will turn up - pictures, home address, siblings) - guess what? He's a convict who has turned his violent, threatening demeanor into a new form of extortion. This is the level of integrity they hire. Seriously, even if you legitimately owed a debt, would you give your credit info to a convict? I sure wouldn't! They're crooks and thieves, nothing more.
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